Transcription: OpenAgents Episode 155 - Open Knowledge Graph

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[00:00] Speaker: Let's continue. So we're building a crowdsource knowledge graph for humans and agents to make sense of crazy current events. So this whole, like, Sam Shoemate, Sean Ryan thing that, like, has dominated a certain subset of Twitter, everyone talking about the legitimacy of this and what happened, and, like, all this info, misinfo, probably disinfo flying around, and we need help to make sense of it. This is supposed to be what that GROK thing from X is supposed to be helpful with, right? Because it's grounded in reality of what people are saying. So I was like, okay, for this video, let's summarize the Sean Ryan, Sam Shoemate controversy, just to give people the speed. Oh, it primarily revolves around allegations of unethical behavior and professional. Okay. This is all a lie. Sam Shoemate accused Sean Ryan of unethical. No, he didn't. I said, what the fuck? What are you basing that on? I'm talking about the Cybertruck letter and people casting doubt about it. Oh, I apologize for the confusion. Oh, Sean Ryan posted a letter on social media claiming that he was from Tesla critiquing the Cybertruck's design and functionality. This is a fucking lie. It's a fucking lie. And the problem is this service bills itself as maximally truth-seeking. It's grounded in real information and it's just spitting out complete horseshit. Okay. Added to the fact that we demoed in the first kind of video about drones a few days ago, last week, we're like asking a question, what is this drone situation about? We got bad answers from that too. So there's more, I think, that can and should be done to organize information. Okay. So we've got, I think, now a way to do that. It's going to take me a few days to like build all this out, but I just wanted to like give you a snapshot of where this is at currently and get feedback on it. So this is like a little demo of Imagine on the left. There's like a chat room and people are able to chat about whatever the topic is in this example chat room as we're talking about the Sean Ryan, Sam Shoemate interview. And then each of these messages, you could envision having associated OSINT or some sort of like relevant data attached to it, which could be graphed. Or maybe this is all part of one big graph and it like zooms into a subgraph of, and then you've just got like a little canvas here, 3.js canvas that you can kind of like zoom around. So imagine any other kind of data here and it's kind of linked together in interesting ways. Okay. There've been a bunch of people who've been, who've tried to do graph graphs of data. There's services out there now where you can like upload a PDF and it'll create you like a knowledge graph of it. That's all cool. I haven't seen any good crowdsourced versions of this. Like how do you collaboratively let people organize information in real time? You know, think like the, the core idea of Wikipedia of like collaborative editing, except not dominated by, you know, woke leftists as well as, you know, being able to have some interesting, you know, data visualization tools and then, you know, paired with AI supporting for analysis. Okay. So we're going to build this over the next few days and just a few things here. So we're using this protocol called Noster, which is an open decentralized protocol. It doesn't itself have anything to do with Bitcoin, but it's kind of Bitcoin adjacent because one of the specifications is tied with lightning payments. So we can have people like vote with money. Okay. So here's the like six high level like pieces of the sub protocol that are relevant to this. And I'll kind of touch on how each one's relevant to what we're doing. So you can get a sense of what this all is entailed. And I'll try to keep it high level. So if you're not technical, you'll still be able to follow it. Basic protocol flow is like, there's just events that can have different pieces of data associated with them. They're stored on relays. If you want to have a post that you want to make and you don't want it to be censored, you can send it out to like 10 different relays. Those relays, most of them will like store it for you. It's just a way to like duplicate data feeds in a censorship resistant way. Public chat. That's a spec that I wrote. As I wanted to be able to chat with Noster, it's just for public chat channels. So in this example, like they're chatting in a NIP 28 chat channel, just a way for structured chat around certain topics. Labeling. Okay, we're going to use this one a lot. This is for like attaching a label to any piece of data. And so if I think that like this message from someone is stupid or a scam or dumb or missing something, or it's a Fed, like you can send, you can attach a piece of reputation data to this. That doesn't mean that it's going to be like downvoted or like there's a one downvoting score and it can get zerged. You yourself, the person who's doing that downvoting, like you yourself are one of these keys, one of these identities within the Noster network. And maybe you have friends that care about what you rate, but other people don't trust you. So they don't really care what you rate. It's just an open protocol for things that people could choose to value how they want to. Encrypted payloads. So if we want to have some of the data be private, you can encrypt it. You can have one person or a group of people be the only people allowed to read that. So this is cool for agents because we want to be able to do stuff with private data or data that some people should not be able to see, but still have it in this open network so you can kind of see what's going on generally. Again, it's not gonna be like 100% private totally because there's like metadata that people can see, but for our purposes, this is great. Reporting. Yeah. Someone does something suspicious or this is kind of related to labeling, but if someone's abusing stuff, something could be reported. And again, that doesn't get banned or whatever, it's just someone could take note and look into giving you a more authoritative negative label or something like that. And then lightning zaps. If you contribute to this graph, you should get Bitcoin. It's set up that anybody can tip you Bitcoin if someone likes your event and there's a whole bunch of people using this sub-protocol in some of the different kind of Twitter clone Noster clients that are out there and zapping each other, paying each other Bitcoin micro-payments for content that they like. But I'd like that people could do that for this graph. If someone like has some amazing insight, instead of just giving it a like, you give it like a little bit of Bitcoin because with our Onyx wallet, we have a built-in Bitcoin wallet that's gonna be very easy to do through Onyx without needing to set up a bunch of other stuff. And we really would like there to be enough money flowing through this that people have a real financial incentive to contribute to this. And, you know, we will seed it with a little bit of Bitcoin, but hopefully other people will see the value in this and we'll maybe throw some Bitcoin in as donations to help a bootstrap this. So these protocols, the beauty of them is that they are open. So we are gonna be building a client, a particularly opinionated client, a website paired with a mobile app with our sort of opinion about how we're going to be using this protocol. All of that code is open source and will be open source on our GitHub repo. We kind of dusted off our old original repo called Open Agents. This is now deployed to openagents.com. It's a Rust HTMX site, and you'll be able to see in here how we are using Noster and everything else. And if you want to like a teeny little demo of the Noster, I just like pulled over the Noster HTMX code from Fiat Jaf. And I dropped it in his pub key. And then here I've got his biographical data. Pretty cool stuff. Okay, so we are going to be kind of bringing this to life and this to life. And by next week, you should see on openagents.com, like an actual graph here. So instead of just the orb, I might even make it so it like zooms in and then you see the graph come up. But we're going to start letting people kind of earn Bitcoin for building up one knowledge graph that we can then ask questions of it and have it do what Grok says that it's good at, but is actually dog shit at. Okay, see you soon.