Transcription: OpenAgents Episode 182 - Sensemaking: Weather Modification & the Texas Floods

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[00:00] Christopher David: Quick detour from our regularly scheduled programming. I live in Central Texas where we had this once-in-a-thousand-year storm.

[00:09] Christopher David: The death toll is rising every day. It's now over 100,

[00:14] Christopher David: 20-plus kids killed,

[00:18] Christopher David: girls still missing.

[00:20] Christopher David: Really bad situation.

[00:24] Christopher David: You know, I'm a Texas taxpayer and, you know, concerned for safety and all this. So I'm just like, you know, looking into why and how this happened and, you know, preparations and mitigations and et cetera.

[00:39] Christopher David: And obviously fast moving situation and new information coming out and, you know, we don't know. We don't know what what all.

[00:49] Christopher David: cause what and such.

[00:53] Christopher David: But here is where AI should help.

[00:57] Christopher David: We have a lot of institutions like X.A.I. pouring money and resources into creating truth-seeking A.I.s and such that should help us make sense of these things.

[01:13] Christopher David: I posted a tweet.

[01:15] Christopher David: yesterday uh just

[01:21] Christopher David: kind of noting a couple of things um and i want to get into like kind of what went into this tweet research that i've done since um and and really highlight the limitations of these research agents

[01:37] Christopher David: like Claude Code and XAI that I've used.

[01:39] Christopher David: We did a video like this a number of months ago on that drone situation in New Jersey and concluding that like these research agents pretty much suck.

[01:48] Christopher David: They're good at some things. They're good at largely maybe asking questions or like coming up with information but not synthesizing things into actual like truth.

[02:00] Christopher David: So I just feel like this was important enough of a...

[02:03] Christopher David: Topic to add a little bit of nuance to the situation because this conversation has a whole bunch of like, it tracks a bunch of people like throwing ad homonyms around.

[02:14] Christopher David: It's like, let's actually just get to an actual conversation about the issue.

[02:21] Christopher David: It was news to me that Texas has the largest state weather modification program like of any state in the country.

[02:29] Christopher David: Oh.

[02:31] Christopher David: Are my taxpayers'

[02:32] Christopher David: dollars paying for that?

[02:33] Christopher David: Just like tell me about it. Tell me about this thing and then tell me like is there is there any connection between largest weather modification program of any state in the country and one in a thousand year floods that killed 100 people?

[02:56] Christopher David: Just tell me if there's any connection between that.

[03:00] Christopher David: It seems like a legitimate inquiry to me, and part of my point here is that anybody suggesting any link between these weather modification efforts that at least one entity was doing seeding up until the storm started in that area,

[03:18] Christopher David: approximately.

[03:21] Christopher David: And like maybe this had an impact on the storm.

[03:27] Christopher David: It seems to me like a legitimate inquiry.

[03:32] Christopher David: But there's a whole bunch of bullshit out there.

[03:33] Christopher David: So hopefully I just want to like filter through some of the bullshit.

[03:37] Christopher David: I don't come to any conclusions here,

[03:39] Christopher David: which is sad because hopefully that things like XAI or some of these tools could help sense making in these these environments.

[03:50] Christopher David: So, you know, I give huge props to Augustus for coming in within a minute of my post being like,

[03:59] Christopher David: please dig in and let me know.

[04:01] Christopher David: OK,

[04:01] Christopher David: I will.

[04:02] Christopher David: And let's just ask him some questions.

[04:05] Christopher David: Cool.

[04:06] Christopher David: So question number one is tell me about the weather modification efforts in Texas.

[04:11] Christopher David: How much does the Texas state government pay per year for weather modification programs,

[04:15] Christopher David: any all information about what specifically is paid for and why.

[04:20] Christopher David: So in this, you know, goes off and does a report compiling a bunch of sources with a caveat that like you can't take any of this as truth because it's just.

[04:30] Christopher David: putting together sources and trying to like summarize in it there's things that it isn't able to do like search through government databases so it's always going to be flawed but it gives you sources then you can look at the sources yourself and kind of like maybe piece a few things together so let's just go through a little bit this texas operates the nation's largest state regulated weather modification network covering 31 million acres through seven cloud seeding programs that run entirely on local funding after state support ended in 2004 so the state

[04:57] Christopher David: The state doesn't directly fund weather modification,

[05:01] Christopher David: but the state maintains a state regulatory agency,

[05:05] Christopher David: TLDR,

[05:05] Christopher David: that regulates anyone doing weather modification.

[05:09] Christopher David: Cool.

[05:15] Christopher David: TDLR oversees all operations through a comprehensive regulatory framework, safety standards.

[05:22] Christopher David: while programs report producing over 1 million acre feet of additional water annually.

[05:28] Christopher David: Okay, local water districts foot the bill.

[05:32] Christopher David: Seven major associations orchestrate cod seeding across West Texas.

[05:38] Christopher David: Drought relief to Hale's depression.

[05:47] Christopher David: texas tech university's 2019 evaluation found seated thunderstorms lived 41 longer covered 41 44 more area and produced 24 more rainfall than untreated storms okay so like the broader scientific community is skeptical of the science or how effective it is um but apparently there's been enough

[06:11] Christopher David: research and stuff such that people farmers and local districts are happy to fund

[06:18] Christopher David: this okay

[06:26] Christopher David: it's a thing it's not funded directly by taxpayer dollars but taxpayer dollars are paying for the regulatory agency that oversees this and apparently anybody modifying the weather needs

[06:38] Christopher David: A permit from T.

[06:40] Christopher David: Is it TLDR?

[06:42] Christopher David: TDLR.

[06:43] Christopher David: It's not like TLDR.

[06:44] Christopher David: Okay.

[06:45] Christopher David: Give me a chart of all expenditures on weather modification in Texas in the last five years.

[06:52] Christopher David: I wanted a chart.

[06:54] Christopher David: It did not give me a chart.

[06:56] Christopher David: Some sources,

[06:57] Christopher David: blah,

[06:57] Christopher David: blah, blah.

[07:02] Christopher David: Give me a list of all entities with TLDR weather modification licenses.

[07:08] Christopher David: I didn't click the research button, so it just did some basic searches there.

[07:14] Christopher David: Where would I find the licensing database?

[07:24] Christopher David: So you can go there, you can search the licensing database. I was like, okay, like Rainmaker's modifying the weather,

[07:30] Christopher David: they should have a permit, right?

[07:31] Christopher David: No, they are a contractor of...

[07:34] Christopher David: west picos trans picos wma that's out west the ward county irrigation district so apparently they are contracting with multiple different districts this would not be the one that covers their central texas one that's just someone on twitter surface this claude couldn't find this so

[07:53] Christopher David: i asked it for like a report on rainmaker specifically we'll get to that in a second but like just one point on how these things are flawed

[08:00] Christopher David: It gave me this research report where it said a critical compliance gap emerged in federal reporting requirements.

[08:06] Christopher David: Despite conducting weather modification operations,

[08:08] Christopher David: they have not filed any NOAA 17-4 reports.

[08:11] Christopher David: This is not true.

[08:14] Christopher David: It's not even that they didn't find it.

[08:16] Christopher David: I gave them the form that they filled out.

[08:20] Christopher David: Here's the form that they filled out. Rainmaker Technology at the bottom.

[08:23] Christopher David: Now, this is a form that goes to NOAA. This is some federal.

[08:29] Christopher David: Agency, you've got to notify.

[08:32] Christopher David: Again, contracting on behalf of Ward County Integration,

[08:35] Christopher David: Transpeak as well.

[08:37] Christopher David: But limitation.

[08:38] Christopher David: Oh, here's, it didn't fill out this form.

[08:42] Christopher David: I gave you the fucking form that they filled out.

[08:44] Christopher David: You're absolutely right,

[08:45] Christopher David: and I apologize for that significant error.

[08:47] Christopher David: You did indeed provide me.

[08:49] Christopher David: It's clearly that they did file that my statement was incorrect.

[08:53] Christopher David: This raises several important questions.

[08:56] Christopher David: So again, we're filtering this like are these actual important questions or are you still bullshitting? Let's just read it.

[09:02] Christopher David: Ward County Irrigation District,

[09:03] Christopher David: Rainmaker Safety Team,

[09:05] Christopher David: who cares?

[09:07] Christopher David: This covers Transpico's operations only.

[09:10] Christopher David: The July 2nd Operations Draco mentioned for South Texas Program would require separate notify.

[09:15] Christopher David: So it's like it doesn't know.

[09:17] Christopher David: It can't find this. It doesn't know.

[09:18] Christopher David: Anyway.

[09:25] Christopher David: I'm interested specifically in like what regulatory authority governed their July 2nd operations?

[09:34] Christopher David: Like who was this with?

[09:37] Christopher David: Who was the entity that is regulated that governed their July 2nd operation?

[09:48] Christopher David: Did rainmaker conduct any operations that could have impacted the floods?

[09:50] Christopher David: No. The last seeding mission prior to the July 4th event was during the early afternoon of July 2nd when a brief cloud seeding mission was flown over the eastern portions of south-central Texas and two clouds were seeded.

[10:02] Christopher David: These clouds persisted for about two hours after seeding before dissipating.

[10:06] Christopher David: Natural clouds typically have lifespans of 30 minutes.

[10:10] Christopher David: They dissipated over 24 hours.

[10:12] Christopher David: Okay.

[10:14] Christopher David: That also raises more questions,

[10:16] Christopher David: but like okay, they did an operation

[10:25] Christopher David: The only overall information that we have I think about their actual operation on July 2nd comes from statements that Augustus is making on Twitter

[10:33] Christopher David: His response here assuming they would persist in the Amish rather than fought 2,000 foot elevation,

[10:39] Christopher David: okay

[10:42] Christopher David: um cool

[10:46] Christopher David: well maybe augustus you can just answer more questions about uh what that operation entailed and you got some good questions being asked by people like uh people who you might otherwise think are bots with this kind of username did it rain from your operations two days prior to the tragedy is it possible remnants of your operation converged with the incoming storm fuck i don't know man

[11:10] Christopher David: I don't know.

[11:21] Christopher David: So here is the thread that originated my tweet there.

[11:26] Christopher David: Research Rainmaker and their clouds heating efforts in Central Texas.

[11:29] Christopher David: Yeah, yeah.

[11:31] Christopher David: Subject number two, limitations of these agents.

[11:35] Christopher David: Your cloud seeding investigation report,

[11:37] Christopher David: it concludes that Rainmaker was not involved in Central Texas operations during June to July 2025.

[11:42] Christopher David: The report covers other things.

[11:51] Christopher David: Central Texas falls within an extensive network of cloud seeding programs that have operated for decades without Rainmaker's involvement.

[11:59] Christopher David: Excuse me. They were active there according to their CEO.

[12:02] Christopher David: Refine your analysis.

[12:04] Christopher David: Oh, thank you for sharing these posts from the CEO.

[12:07] Christopher David: This is significant new information that directly contradicts my previous research findings.

[12:12] Christopher David: They were indeed conducting. Let me research this more thoroughly.

[12:17] Christopher David: And then...

[12:19] Christopher David: It like researches further based on that you think that would like help it find better information Oh, the report finds no evidence of his post about South Central Texas operations confirms rainmakers uses only drones and reveals the company lacks Texas weather modification permits.

[12:35] Christopher David: That's probably true.

[12:36] Christopher David: They're just contracting with ones that do

[12:39] Christopher David: It also verifies that high moisture conditions on July 2 to 5 would have justified suspending operations,

[12:44] Christopher David: okay

[12:48] Christopher David: That doesn't help at all.

[12:51] Christopher David: I say,

[12:51] Christopher David: investigate its specific claim that it played no role in the catastrophic flooding.

[12:57] Christopher David: It was actively cloud seeding until the storm hit.

[12:59] Christopher David: How can one assert that they played no role when their entire fucking business is intended to create rain?

[13:06] Christopher David: Right?

[13:08] Christopher David: I understand your frustration with the apparent contradiction. You're right to question this.

[13:12] Christopher David: If rain may cause actively cloud seeding in the area until July 2nd, just two days before catastrophic flooding that killed dozens of people,

[13:18] Christopher David: their claim of no role seems suspect at best.

[13:21] Christopher David: Let me investigate this specific timeline in science.

[13:23] Christopher David: Well, at this point,

[13:24] Christopher David: I don't really trust this fucking thing,

[13:30] Christopher David: but incite some sources that have some interesting stuff.

[13:41] Christopher David: At a good point here,

[13:42] Christopher David: the

[13:45] Christopher David: fundamental contradiction in weather modification claims reveals itself starkly. Companies cannot simultaneously argue their technology successfully creates rain for drought relief while bearing no responsibility for rain relief.

[13:56] Christopher David: OK, I wouldn't go that far.

[13:57] Christopher David: I'd say like your technology is either something that people should fucking pay for because it makes rain or it doesn't.

[14:06] Christopher David: And if the stuff that you're doing doesn't make rain,

[14:09] Christopher David: then why are you being paid and regulated to do what exactly?

[14:15] Christopher David: So if you're doing stuff that creates rain immediately before a massive fucking once-in-a-thousand-year storm,

[14:23] Christopher David: asking questions about that is really actually legitimate.