Transcription: OpenAgents Episode 205 - Vintage Microsoft Evil Shit

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[00:00] Christopher David: There's a principle in open source software called don't break user space.

[00:06] Christopher David: It means changes to the system must not break existing user programs, scripts or workflows. In short, once something works for users, it should keep working. Now, of course, anthropic is not an open source company,

[00:20] Christopher David: not in the least,

[00:22] Christopher David: but overnight.

[00:25] Christopher David: Turning off access,

[00:27] Christopher David: third-party OAuth access,

[00:29] Christopher David: for thousands of developers,

[00:31] Christopher David: breaking user space for thousands of developers,

[00:36] Christopher David: this needs a real response.

[00:38] Christopher David: Now, plenty of amazing pushback on my Twitter feed here.

[00:49] Christopher David: If this really is predatory by Claude,

[00:51] Christopher David: what a colossal fuck-up from Prime.

[00:54] Christopher David: GM to everyone doing the same thing today, cloning Claude code and capturing the data so we don't have to be dependent on them. This was lame is great way to kill a lot of goodwill for your brand.

[01:05] Christopher David: Let's see what else.

[01:10] Christopher David: Cancelling my Mac's plan.

[01:12] Christopher David: Never been more bullish on open source.

[01:14] Christopher David: Claude code is unusable.

[01:20] Christopher David: Anthropic really knows how to level up competitors.

[01:23] Christopher David: Could someone please release something competitive to Claude so we don't end up in a monopolized market?

[01:31] Christopher David: Yeah.

[01:33] Christopher David: I think we'll formally introduce our solution to this in the next video. We were building toward this anyways.

[01:40] Christopher David: Yeah,

[01:41] Christopher David: you're throwing out DMCA takedowns. You're throwing,

[01:44] Christopher David: you know, limitations to developers with no communication.

[01:50] Christopher David: Ten hours have gone by, not a single piece of communication from Anthropic. It wasn't a mistake,

[01:54] Christopher David: they're clearly aware that developers are using it like this.

[02:00] Christopher David: Don't break user space.

[02:03] Christopher David: And some people were saying,

[02:05] Christopher David: oh well you can just get around the limitation.

[02:08] Christopher David: Here's how you get around it.

[02:10] Christopher David: Ha ha ha.

[02:12] Christopher David: Boom!

[02:12] Christopher David: Patched.

[02:13] Christopher David: Still doesn't work,

[02:14] Christopher David: okay?

[02:15] Christopher David: This wasn't a fluke on their part.

[02:19] Christopher David: They know you're trying to get around it.

[02:22] Christopher David: They want to lock you into their walled garden.

[02:26] Christopher David: That's not how we do business here.

[02:30] Christopher David: So you'll... Oh, let's do the voice command. Let's see if this works.

[02:33] Christopher David: So you'll see our response to this in a few hours.

[02:43] Christopher David: See you soon.

[02:45] Christopher David: Follow-up from Friday's video,

[02:46] Christopher David: when Anthropic did say anything,

[02:49] Christopher David: it was through some of their employees talking smack on Twitter.

[02:54] Christopher David: Not backtracking at all.

[02:56] Christopher David: DHH has the money quote here,

[02:58] Christopher David: this cut off the air supply bullshit is not that and a big mistake.

[03:02] Christopher David: Vintage Microsoft evil shit,

[03:04] Christopher David: love it.

[03:05] Christopher David: Yeah,

[03:06] Christopher David: I had two things to respond to.

[03:09] Christopher David: Mr.

[03:09] Christopher David: member of something,

[03:11] Christopher David: something staff at Anthropic.

[03:13] Christopher David: When you feel like it. No. A terms violation?

[03:15] Christopher David: Do you think we shouldn't enforce our terms?

[03:17] Christopher David: If anyone wants to use Claude models,

[03:18] Christopher David: they simply use the API.

[03:20] Christopher David: We should have told you sooner.

[03:21] Christopher David: And then the other Anthropic person said,

[03:23] Christopher David: you know, there's a part of the way to use Claude in your own tools is through the API.

[03:26] Christopher David: Use the API. Use the API.

[03:30] Christopher David: They are promoting headless mode. Simply use the API.

[03:32] Christopher David: You have live docs. Encourage people right now. Here they are. Run Claude code programmatically to build services on your CLI that use end users' ProMax plans.

[03:40] Christopher David: That does not use the API.

[03:42] Christopher David: So this is not supported.

[03:43] Christopher David: Why is it documented?

[03:44] Christopher David: Why is there no warning that you can't use this in a third party tool?

[03:50] Christopher David: Multiple options integrate CC in your docs in terms of contradicting what you're tweeting.

[03:53] Christopher David: We learned your real stance only today after DMCA's and 10 hours of silence.

[03:58] Christopher David: When will coding agent devs build competing products?

[04:00] Christopher David: Learn the real boundary there.

[04:02] Christopher David: After you sue them,

[04:03] Christopher David: that's in reference to maybe the larger point here.

[04:06] Christopher David: Oh, should we not enforce our terms?

[04:08] Christopher David: Well, their terms,

[04:09] Christopher David: we

[04:12] Christopher David: learned this weekend,

[04:15] Christopher David: we've been violating them for months because you can't use any of their services.

[04:24] Christopher David: To develop any products or services that compete with theirs.

[04:29] Christopher David: It says including to develop or train artificial intelligence,

[04:32] Christopher David: but like, alright lawyer Chad GPT, help me out here.

[04:43] Christopher David: So anyway, I went back and forth with this and decided that like, I'm not going to screw with it. We're just going to strip out all of our Claude and Thropic stuff.

[04:50] Christopher David: Um, so let's take a look here.

[04:54] Christopher David: So there's probably hundreds or thousands of developers building what Anthropic would consider competing products.

[05:01] Christopher David: I'm going to make a video about this warning them.

[05:03] Christopher David: What types of products should be concerned?

[05:06] Christopher David: Good instinct,

[05:07] Christopher David: you're right,

[05:08] Christopher David: there's already thousands of developers in the blast radius,

[05:10] Christopher David: most of whom don't realize it because competing sounds narrower than it actually is.

[05:18] Christopher David: So the real scoop of competing products,

[05:20] Christopher David: they don't mean another foundation model company.

[05:23] Christopher David: They mean anything that competes with their product surface,

[05:27] Christopher David: not just their model.

[05:28] Christopher David: This isn't an interpretation.

[05:30] Christopher David: This is what their terms of service say.

[05:33] Christopher David: And if some employee,

[05:34] Christopher David: hypothetically,

[05:36] Christopher David: after this video were to say,

[05:37] Christopher David: oh no, we wouldn't do that,

[05:39] Christopher David: but their terms allow it.

[05:41] Christopher David: So if you get big enough, absolutely they can sue you and their lawyers will interpret it to favor anthropic, not you,

[05:47] Christopher David: obviously.

[05:48] Christopher David: Okay, so who's at highest risk for this?

[05:51] Christopher David: If your product can be described as an AI assistant,

[05:54] Christopher David: a coding agent,

[05:56] Christopher David: a research assistant,

[05:58] Christopher David: a chat interface for AI,

[05:59] Christopher David: you are in the danger zone.

[06:01] Christopher David: Examples. Chat apps, coding CLI's, IDE assistance,

[06:05] Christopher David: terminal agents,

[06:06] Christopher David: research copilots. Even if you use their API.

[06:08] Christopher David: Even if you require the user's account or add features they don't have,

[06:12] Christopher David: from their point of view you're competing for the same user session.

[06:14] Christopher David: Risk level very high.

[06:16] Christopher David: Better UI or wrapper products?

[06:17] Christopher David: Very high.

[06:18] Christopher David: Agent free immersive defaulted.

[06:19] Christopher David: Cloud?

[06:20] Christopher David: High.

[06:21] Christopher David: Synthetic data model trade pilot?

[06:22] Christopher David: Extremely high.

[06:24] Christopher David: Cloud parents? Okay.

[06:25] Christopher David: Marketplaces,

[06:26] Christopher David: orchestration layers.

[06:27] Christopher David: Oh, low to medium.

[06:27] Christopher David: Nice.

[06:31] Christopher David: Okay, folks.

[06:32] Christopher David: So we're taking two actions here.

[06:34] Christopher David: One is hopefully for the last time now we're canceling our Macs account.

[06:40] Christopher David: Violated your terms of service. Oops.

[06:43] Christopher David: Yeah.

[06:43] Christopher David: Let's see.

[06:44] Christopher David: Overbroad TOS Ray competing products.

[06:52] Christopher David: Cancel plan.

[06:54] Christopher David: And then we've also stripped all clod and anthropic.

[07:00] Christopher David: Code entirely from our code base.

[07:02] Christopher David: You can even do a search.

[07:07] Christopher David: Claud,

[07:07] Christopher David: no mentions.

[07:10] Christopher David: Anthropic,

[07:11] Christopher David: no mentions. So don't worry,

[07:12] Christopher David: Anthropic, we're not going to use your services to compete with you.

[07:15] Christopher David: We're just going to compete with you.

[07:17] Christopher David: See you soon.