December_03_2014.md

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Logistics

Meeting Title:

Planning Council Conference Call

Date & Time:

Wednesday, December 3, 2014, at 1200 Noon Eastern

Dial in:

(See Asterisk service for complete details on SIP, potential new numbers, phone mute commands, etc.)

Phone Numbers: (Check Asterisk/Numbers for more or current phone numbers.)

For all phone lines: Participant conference extension: 710 then enter pin 35498
  • Ottawa (local call in Ottawa) 1-613-454-1403
  • North America (toll free) 1-866-569-4992
  • Germany (local call anywhere in Germany) +49-692-2224-6059
  • France (local call anywhere in France) +33-17-070-8535
  • UK (toll free) 0800-033-7806
  • Switzerland (local call anywhere in Switzerland) +41-44-580-2115
  • SIP clients:
call 710@asterisk.eclipse.org, then enter pin 35498.

Members and Attendees

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PMC (and Strategic) Reps

Chris Aniszczyk

Technology (PMC)

Y

Dani Megert

Eclipse (PMC)

Y

Steffen Pingel

Mylyn (ALM) PMC

Brian Payton

Datatools (PMC)

Doug Schaefer

Tools (PMC)

Y

Adrian Mos (Marc Dutoo )

SOA (PMC)

Ed Merks

Modeling (PMC)

Ian Bull

Rt (PMC)

Y

Chuck Bridgham

WTP (PMC)

Y

Wayne Beaton

Eclipse Foundation (appointed)

Y

David Williams

(appointed Chair)

Y

Strategic Reps

Cedric Brun

OBEO (Strategic Developer)

Neil Hauge

Oracle (Strategic Developer)

Y

Stephan Merker

SAP AG (Strategic Developer)

Y

Markus Knauer

Innoopract (Strategic Developer)

Rajeev Dayal

Google (Strategic Developer)

(PMC rep)

Actuate (Strategic Developer)

X

(PMC rep)

IBM (Strategic Developer)

X

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Inactive

[no name]

CA Inc. (Strategic Consumer)

X

[no name]

Birt (PMC)

X

Note: "Inactive" refers to Strategic Members or PMCs we have not heard from for a while, and have been unable to convince to participate. Those members can become active again at any time. Contact David Williams if questions.

Note: feel free to correct any errors/omissions in above attendance record. Y = Yes, attended N = No, did not R = regrets sent ahead of time D = delegated X = not expected

Announcements

  • Thanks goes to Chris for staring the yearly "name that release" process:
  -
    \- Naming Mars+1 (2016 Eclipse Simultaneous Release)
  • ?

Previous meeting minutes

Luna SR2

  • Any issues?
  • Should we change "signing certificate" as soon as possible? Or wait until right after Luna ships? Please see .
  • The issue is that there are cases, usually not related to the "IDE", where Java checks that "split packages" were signed by "same certificate", and it is unclear exactly what counts as "same certificate". According to Denis, it is the "same certificate", just "resigned and re-keyed". But, I would not be surprised if Java doesn't count that as "different".
  -
    ''Ian reminded us that if certificate is changed, but nothing
    else, then many projects will continue to use "old, previously
    signed bundle", since the qualifier did not change, and normally
    no harm in that (since they have TSA timestamp) but if the goal
    is to "find all problematic cases" and "touch them" so their
    qualifier changes, then Luna SR2 is not a good time to do that.
    Too little time, resources, etc. and starting to get close to
    "rampdown" for Luna SR2, and most desire to "keep changes to a
    minimum, for maintenance stream ... so, would be better to
    change after Luna SR2 so even if there are issues in Mars stream
    (due to this same-qualifier principle) then they will likely be
    found "naturally" over the last few months of Mars, instead of
    needing any sort of last minute "fire drill". ''
  • A different signing issue: I suspect there is some risk that the "signing of Mac executable" will not be working for SR2. Any business impact?
\- Need to update "Mac signing service"
\- Change location of eclipse.ini (for Max OS X signing)

Mars Planning

  -
    Ready to consider these final?
    *No issues, so considered final.*
  • Categories for Sim. Release Repo: Any comments/objections to adding a category as described in ?
  -
    *A few voiced concern over the state of the categories as a
    whole. And Wayne volunteered to "take a step back", look at them
    holistically, think about the purpose and audience they are to
    serve, and come up with a proposal -- by our January meeting.*
  -
    *I'll capture the work in progress here: [SimRel/Feature
    Categories](SimRel/Feature_Categories "wikilink")* -- Wayne

Progress on Action Items

  • Prune "callisto-dev" group soon . nearly done.
  • Improve "aggregator examples/doc". (dw -- no progress).

New Business

  • ?

Next Meeting

  • January 7, 2015 - Regular First Wednesday Meeting.

Reference

  • 2013 EclipseCon face-to-face follow-through action items. For original meeting notes, see March_24_2013 and for discussion leading to action items, see April_10_2013. For last status update, see May_8_2013.