November_7_2018.md

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Logistics

Meeting Title:

Planning Council Conference Call

Date & Time:

Wednesday, Nov 7, 2018, at 11:00 EST

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Members

Temporary Planning Council Chair: Nick Boldt Planning Council Chair: Melanie Bats (returns Dec 2018)

Eclipse Foundation

  • Wayne Beaton
  • Frederic Gurr
  • Mikael Barbero

Strategic Members

  • CA Technologies
  • CEA LIST
  • Ericsson AB (Marc-Andre Laperle)
  • IBM (Thomas Watson)
  • itemis AG (Alexander Nyssen)
  • Obeo (Melanie Bats)
  • Oracle (Neil Hauge)
  • Red Hat, Inc. (Nick Boldt)
  • Robert Bosch GmbH
  • SAP SE (Stephan Merker)

PMC Representatives

  • Business Intelligence and Reporting Tools (BIRT) PMC (Gary Xue)
  • Data Tools Platform PMC (Brian Payton)
  • Eclipse Cloud Development PMC (Martin Lippert)
  • Eclipse Project PMC (Dani Megert)
  • IoT
  • LocationTech Technology
  • Eclipse Modeling Project PMC (Ed Merks)
  • Mylyn (Application Lifecycle Tools) PMC (Sam Davis)
  • PolarSys
  • Eclipse Runtime Project (RT) PMC
  • Eclipse Science
  • Service Oriented Architecture PMC (Adrian Mos)
  • Technology PMC (Chris Aniszczyk)
  • Tools Project PMC (Aleksandar Kurtakov)
  • Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (WTP) PMC (Carl Anderson)

Previous meeting minutes

  • Review previous meeting minutes if you'd like. That is, review them before the meeting, but if questions or issues with previous minutes, this would be a good time to bring them up.

Attendance

TBD

Agenda

  • [Ed] oomph updates

:* no longer does 32-bit, now does dmg files, includes fixes for equinox changes

:* oomph catalog is less restrictive w/ ranges. Upper bounds are 5.0 so all 4.x updates will work (rather than [4.9,4.10) which prevented it

  • [Alex] Missing EPPs for M1 - Java EE package missing

:* package maintainers ( should / must ) provide automatable tests?

:* publish all of them, but mark not approved, with link to previous

:* AI: Fred to delegate to web team to push all & mark red w/ bug details - maybe for M2?

:* if maintainers provide tests, to be run on EPP jenkins, then manual +1 email no longer needed

  • [Dani] Train name - we're now "Eclipse IDE for ___", "Eclipse IDE" on splash screen

:* EclipseCon planning meeting: 6 in attendance, and in agreement

:* Eclipse TLP still not renamed

:* AI: Dani to email Thabang (cc: Ed) about replacing "Simrel" with "IDE" on download and marketing pages because "Simrel" makes his eyes hurt (though it should be noted that instead of calling the release a "train" he does refer to it as "the simrel") :P

  • [Dani] liaison person for Eclipse marketing (Thabang - new marketing guy; Ian is gone)

:* Sept release marketing was weak

:* No landing page for Jakarta EE, no buzz

:* Plan is to have the June releases be the big buzz, but quarterly releases will get some love too

:* They need our help to know select N&N items as input to marketing

:* Suggestion: Sopot Cela; nominate him to PC

:* AI: Alex to talk to Wayne about appointing Sopot

  • [Fred] cross-projects list should only be used for simrel announcements?

:* no, nothing to change

  • [Dani] new list to be created for jakartaee-projects@ train
  • [Fred] simrel looking good
  • [Ed] not seeing a lot of contributions from projects; will we see problems because no one is watching platform changes?

Actions from last time

Per: https://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council/October_3_2018#Notes

  • AI: Wayne: add a new date to the simrel schedule for when an announcement is send to cross-projects@, to report who we think is participating. If URLs are found w/ /latest/ or snapshot, they should be disabled?
  • AI: Wayne: send note to cross-projects@ to announce not opting in
  • AI: Wayne: update "ASAP" re: "Create your release record (for new releases)". Actual date is on/before Oct 19.
  • AI: Wayne to produce documentation re: rules and send to planning-council list
  • AI: Fred restrict pushing to simrel w/o gerrit review

:* not done yet; planned for after M2

New business

  • TBD

Regrets

Notes